Arne Thompson
My great-great-grandfatherBorn Arne Tostensen Andersen 16 June 1850 in Ostmarken, Kongsvinger, Norway, died August 12, 1922 in a train vs. truck railway accident.
He and Eli came to the US around 1879/1880 into Boon Co., IL and later moved to Hamline CO, SD.
He is buried in the Swedish Lutheran Church Cemetery in Annandale, MN.
- Father: Tosten Andersen
- Mother: Anne Amundsdatter
This entry
matches her possible timeline and possible location.
- Son?: Amund Tostensen (born 06 Feb 1830)
- Son?: Anders Tostensen (born 4 Jul 1832)
- Son?: Erik Tostensen (born 19 Mary 1843)
- Son: Amund Tostensen Amund Tostensen
- Son: Anders Tostensen Anders Tostensen
- Son: Erik Tostensen
- Son: Arne Tostensen
- Son: Ole Tostensen ( 1875 Census )
- Son: Tosten Tostensen
- Son: Erland Tostensen ( Erland Thorstensen? Marriage? 1875 Census )
- Daughter: Eli Torstensdatter
- Born: 16 June 1850
- Baptism: 7 July 1850
- Married to
Eli Aaberg/Eriksdatter
AKA Ellen Erickson?
She died in 1895 - Marriage 13 October 1872
- Andrew - Son
- 1875 Census Son "Andreas" most likely Andrew
- Carolyn/Karen "Carrie" - Daughter
- Elizabeth "Lizzie" - Daughter
- Thorvald - Son
- Married to
Elisa Arneson Smith Thompson
Married in 1897, probably in Watertown, SD - Edward - Son by Elisa
- 1910 Census with 2nd wife "Lizzie", stepdaughter Emma and son Edward.
- 1920 Census - wife listed as "Ellen" and son "Eddie"
The Train Accident
- Annandale Depot & Train Wrecks
- 10 DEAD, 20 INJURED IN WRECK ON THE 'SOO'
- Pioneer Park Tour - Account of accident and list of victims
- Ten Persons Killed As Result of Wreck on Minnesota Line Dallas Morning News (1922-08-14)
- PDF File from NY Times
- Duluth Herald - August 14, 1922
Andrew Rudd Thompson
Born: 11 November 1872 in NorwayBaptised: 08 Dec 1872
Died: 1 December 1952 in Minneapolis
Spouse: Tillie born May 1872 in Iowa died 5 March 1960.
Married Matilda C. Linquist on 30 Dec 1897 in Iowa, daughter of Jonas Linquist, Hannah Carlstom.
Minnesota, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1990
- Iowa, County Marriages, 1838-1934. Mother listed as "Ellen Erickson" and it's in Iowa. Spouse "Matilda" could still be "Tillie."
- Iowa, Marriages, 1809-1992. Same information from a different source.
- United States Census, 1900. Places him in South Dakota in 1900. Brother listed as Thorvald (listed as born July 1883). Son Elroy (born January 1900).
- 1905 Minnesota Census has last name spelled as "Thompsen," residence as 823 Ninteenth Ave, Minneapolis and includes a "Lizzie Thompsen" age 23, which would place her birth about 1882 in Wisconsin.
- Minnesota, Births and Christenings, 1840-1980. Birth of Loyd Ernest Thompson, 04 April 1904 in Minneapolis
- 1910 Census puts him in Minnesota with "Lloyd" listed as "Loyal"
- Draft Registration
Family Tree
- Andrew Rudd Thompson
- Spouse: Matilda C. "Tillie" Lindquist
- Son: Elroy Thompson
- Spouse: Anna Margaret Sather
- Daughter: Lois Virginna Thompson Johnson
- Spouse: Edward Harold Johnson b. 8 November 1910, d. 13 December 2002
- Son:
Randall Elroy Johnson
(November 1946)
- Spouse: (Mary P. Forsythe) (Polly)
- Daughter:
Kerith A. Johnson
(27 September 1980)
- Spouse: Daniel Stevens
- Daughter: Linnea K. Stevens
- Daughter: Kaisa
- Daughter: Kristen E. Johnson
- Son: Craig Edward Johnson
(9 February 1949)
- Spouse: Darlene Divorced: September 1979
- Son: Kyle Adam Johnson
-
Spouse: Ann?
- Son: Kevin Bruce Johnson (5 June 1951)
- Son: Lloyd Earnest Thompson
B. 04 April 1904
D. 31 August 1979
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Spouse: Ida Doris Cambron/Carlson
m.
(17 February 1905 - 9 December 1987)
M. 20 June 1925
- Son: Richard Lloyd Thompson b. 23 August 1927 Chicago
- Son: Robert George Thompson b. 10 July 1929
Elroy Thompson
From Find a GraveBirth: Jan. 3, 1900, Hazel, Hamlin County, South Dakota, USA
Death: Jul. 10, 1994, Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota, USA
Elroy Adolph Thompson was born on 3rd of January 1900 in Hamiln County in South Dakota. Elroy was son of Andrew Rudd Thompson and Tillie C Lundquist. On the 6th of April 1918, Elroy married Anna Margaret Sather in Minneapolis, MN. Elroy and Anna had 1 daughter.
He married Macie Thompson on 19 April 1974 in Seattle, WA. She died 2 February 2007 in Foley, MN.
1900 Census lists a "Elroy E." there is also and Elroy A. (Draft Card indicates Adolph) listed with spouse Anna C Thompson (born in Norway) in censuses from 1920-1940 with daughter Lois in Hennepin County, MN.
- 1920 Census
- 1930 Census
- 1940 Census
- Draft Card
- Find a Grave
- Hamlin County Birth Records
- Descendents of Early Members of the Østerdalslaget
Lois Virginna Thompson Johnson
- A Family Tree based on Lois Thompson
- Descendents of Early Members of the Østerdalslaget (founded in 1910)
M, b. 8 November 1910, d. 13 December 2002
Charts Descendants of Peter (Martinson) Sather and Anna Aurora Hildegard Lundquist
Research-Note* Served in WWII. Active member of Riverside Church.
Birth* 8 Nov 1910 Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States1
Marriage* 7 Jun 1941 Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States; Principal=Lois Virginna Thompson
Military Service* 1942 England, France Germany; Served in WWII Superme Headquarters of the Allied Expeclitionery Forces working with General Dwight Eisenhower
Death* 13 Dec 2002 Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States
Family
Lois Virginna Thompson
Children
- Son: Randall Elroy Johnson (November 1946)
- Commissioner, Hennepin County
- Spouse: (Mary P. Forsythe)
(Polly)
- Daughter:
Kerith A. Johnson
(27 September 1980)
- Spouse: Daniel Stevens
- Daughter: Linnea K. Stevens
- Daughter: Kaisa
- Daughter:
Kerith A. Johnson
(27 September 1980)
- Son: Craig Edward Johnson
(9 February 1949)
- Spouse: Darlene Divorced: September 1979
- Son: Kyle Adam
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Spouse: Ann?
- Son: Kevin Bruce Johnson (5 June 1951)
Lloyd
Born: 04 April 1904Died: 31 August 1979
Spouse: Ida (17 February 1905 - 9 December 1987)
Married: 20 June 1925
Son: Richard (Dick) - Oak Park, IL
Son: Robert (Bob) - Westchester, IL
THOMPSON, LLOYD was born 04 April 1904, received Social Security number 326-09-5729 (indicating Illinois) and, Death Master File says, died August 1979. Other sources indicate he died in Bensenville, IL.
Elizabeth/Eliza "Lizzie" Thompson Johnson
According to 1905 Minnesota Census, she lived with Andrew at the age of 23, making her birth in Wisconsin about 1882.
- Born: 28 September 1881, Manchester, Boone, Illinois
- California Death Index - Eliza Johnson 29 Sep 1881 - 05 Jun 1969
- Lizzie Thompson married John Magnus Johnson - 11 Jul 1906 in Minnesota
- Their child, Emil Everett Johnson, was born 24 Jul 1906
- Married to Julius Johnson on 30 October 1909
- 1910 Census - Married to Julius Johnson. Emil Johnson listed as Stepson.
- 1920 Census list in the household of "F E Thompson" who is most likely actually Thorvald mis-transcribed.
- 1930 Census living with Everett
- 1940 Census in household of Everett Johnson
- California Death Index for Everett 24 Jul 1906 - 10 Apr 1976
Everett (Ev) Johnson (born about 1906) was her son and he had two children, Lee Johnson and Joyce Johnson Tarrentino.
- 1940 Census
- Dorothy C Schaefer, born 02/09/1910 to Ms. Connolly in San Francisco County (Probably)
- Lee Grant Johnson, born 06/02/1932 to Ms. Schaefer in San Francisco County
- Honolulu Star-Advertiser -
June 2, 1932 - Jan. 14, 2011
Lee Grant Johnson, 78, of Mililani, a retired Army military intelligence officer, died in Honolulu. He was born in San Francisco. He is survived by wife Jane K., son Ken D., daughter Jere L. Sanchez , sister Joyce Tarrentino and five grandchildren. Private services. - Joyce Kay Johnson, born 01/21/1942 to Ms. Schaefer in San Francisco County
- Spouse: John Magnus Johnson
- Son: Emil Everett Johnson
- Spouse: Dorothy Schaefer
- Son: Lee Grant Johnson
- Spouse: Jane K.
- Son: Ken D. Johnson
- Daughter:
Jere L. Johnson
- Spouse: Kent? Jerry? Sanchez
- Married?: 7 Jun 1988
- Daughter: Joyce Kay Johnson
- Spouse: James Tarantino, Jr.
- Daughter: Bonnie S Tarantino
- Son:
James R. Tarantino
- Spouse: Mirna Alvarenga
- Daughter:
Jennifer Vanessa Tarantino
- Spouse: Jack Turner
- Son: Joseph Tarantino
- Daughter: Diana G. Tarantino
- Daughter: Della M. Tarantino
- Spouse: Julius Johnson
Thorvald E. Thompson
According to an Ancestry.com entry, born 9 Jul 1884 in Clinton, WI and died 4 Oct 1946 in Seattle, Washington. Draft registration records indicate a July 9 1883 birth.Thorvald married Manda/Amanada Johnson and was the father of three daughters, Alice Llorrae (Married Richard Mathews and John Patrick Quigley), Hazel Violet Bartholomew (13 Jan 1906 - 16 Sep 2002) and Lillian May Rozenberg (known as May).
Manda was born in South Side, Minnesota, USA on 25 Jun 1887 and passed away on 7 Aug 1927 in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA.
Both Thorvald and Manda are buried in St. John's Lutheran Church Cemetery, Annandale, Wright Co., MN, according to cemetery records. However, cemetery records indicate Thorvald's death in 1938, rather than 1946.
I remember Hazel quite well, as she visited my grandmother Clara Dado quite often. As a family, I also remember visiting May and Don Rozenberg in Southern California in the late 1960s or early 1970s.
Hazel was married to Vernon Bartholomew. They had a daughter who presumably died at birth on 30 December 1931 or 1932. Hazel's sons were Stephen Vernon (b. abt. 1936) and David Anthony (born 5/31/1940). Stephen was married to Muriel Bromberg (Ancestry)/Broumber (California Birth Index) AKA Mimi. Hazel divorced on 12 November 1963.
Stephen and Mimi had a son, Brendan Patrick Bartholomew, 23 December 1969.
David married Sue Anderson.
Alice's children are Michael Mathews, Judy Lee Quigley (born 1 September 1941) and Jan Patrick Quigley (born 1 April 1946)
1910 Census indicates his birthplace in Illinois. Clinton, WI is on the Illinois border.
The 1930 United States Federal Census contains this entry. It's possible he remarried.
NAME: Thorvald Thompson
SPOUSE: Clara Thompson
BIRTH: abt 1884 - Wisconsin
RESIDENCE: 1930 - city, Hennepin, Minnesota
The same information from FamilySearch.org confirms the remainder of the family.
Thorvald Thompson, "United States Census, 1930" Name: Thorvald Thompson Titles and Terms: Event Type: Census Event Year: 1930 Event Place: Minneapolis (Districts 1-250), Hennepin, Minnesota, United States District: 0129 Gender: Male Age: 46 Marital Status: Married Race: White Race (Original): White Relationship to Head of Household: Head Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head Birth Year (Estimated): 1884 Birthplace: Wisconsin Immigration Year: Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Sheet Number and Letter: 4A Household ID: 125 Line Number: 1 Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Affiliate Publication Number: T626 Affiliate Film Number: 1093 GS Film number: 2340828 Digital Folder Number: 004610047 Image Number: 00865 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Thorvald Thompson M 46 Wisconsin Wife Clara Thompson F 32 Minnesota Daughter Gertrude Goff F 9 Minnesota Daughter Hazel Thompson F 24 Minnesota Daughter May Thompson F 13 Minnesota Daughter Alice Thompson F 8 Minnesota
His death certificate confirms his birth and death dates, and lists his mother's names as "Ellen."
Family tree
- Thorvald Thompson
- Spouse: Amanda Johnson
- Daughter: Hazel Violet Thompson
- Spouse: Vernon Batholomew
- Daughter: ? (Died at birth)
- Son: Steven Vernon Bartholomew
- Spouse: Muriel Bromberg
- Son: Brendan Patrick Bartholomew
- Son:
- David Anthony Bartholomew
Born: MAY 31, 1940
Died: JULY 14, 2020
- Spouse: Sue Anderson
- Daughter: Lillian May Rozenberg
- Spouse: Donald Dick Rozenberg
- Daughter: Donna May Rozenberg
- Spouse: Vaughn Edward Dennis
- Son:
Vaughn Michael Dennis
b. 18 July 1964
- Spouse: Shawn Hensley m. 1991
- Son: Donald Wesley Dennis
b. 5 November 1969
- Spouse: Mindia McLean m. 1992
- Mary Dorothy Rozenberg b. 26 December 1943, Los Angeles d. 4 March 1947
- Daughter: Dorothy Rozenberg
- Spouse: Ray Roth
- Robert Roth
- Spouse: Theo Cline
- Son:
- Rebecca Roth
- Spouse: Dave Proctor
- Daughter: Madison
- Son: Alex
- Daughter:
Alice Llorrae Thompson
1922 - 12 May 2007
- Spouse: Richard Norman Mathews 1920-1942
- Son: Michael Mathews
- Spouse: John Patrick Quigley 1921-1975
- Judy Lee Quigley
b. 1 September 1941
- Spouse: Kizler
- Jon Patrick Quigley
- Spouse: Mary
- Daughter:
Debi Quigley?
- Spouse: ? Quiroz
- Jennifer J. Quigley
- Spouse: Charles Smith
- Son: William Ryan Quigley
- Spouse: Clara
- Step-Daughter: Gertrude Goff
Elisa Arneson Thompson
Born 9 March, 1862 in Norway. Was married to George Smith and had two daughters, Emma Smith Roeber and Clara Smith. With Arne Thompson had a son Edward. She died 21 March 1951.- 1880 Census - possible information on Elisa
- Inquiry about George Smith
This information is from a index card maintained by my grandmother, Clara Dado, with corrections from Lynn Serack (her great-granddaughter).
Palmiter, Majory (MargyMarge)Husband is a magazine editor and writing a book on Wisconsin cheese.
MargyMarjory/Marge is the daughter of Emil and Emma Roeber. Emil Roeber died in 1967. Emma died Jan. 30, 1987. Emma was born July 10, 1895 in Annandale, Minn. She was married to Emil Roeber on Sept. 9, 1919. Her parents were Elisa Arneson Smith and George Smith. Elisa was the second wife of Arne Thompson, father of Andrew, Carrie, Lizzie and Thorvald. Edward Thompson was born to Elisa and Arne. Emma and Clara Smith were step-daughters of Arne Thompson. Carrie Thompson Gunderson Anderson is the mother of Clara and Thora (twins), Annette Anderson and Albert Gunderson (Edgar Albert).Emma's sister Clara Smith married Russell Holmes, now deceased,
and lives in Detroit, Mich.She was born July 2, 1893. 6-87 Lives in Ypsilanti, Mich.
Margy'schildren are: Steven and Lynne.Steve married Diana Smith on Feb. 28, 1987, and both are teachers in Minneapolis, Minn. Lynne married Kenneth Serack 1/10/1994 - and lives in Seattle (Snoqualmie, WA). Marg
ye's brother, Donald and family live in the Seattle area. Don lives in Kent, Wash., and the family members in nearby areas. Don is an Administrator in a hospital in Seattle. Don died and is survived by 2 sons and a daughter, all married, with children, two have grandchildren. (You can get the rest of the clan when I send you the pedigree.)
Edward (Eddy) Thompson has two sons, Richard/Dick and Douglas.
Marjory E. Roeber Palmiter
Marjory was the granddaughter of Elisa from her first marriage. She was born 9 August 1923 and died 19 December 2011. Husband Harry Palmiter (1922-2002), died March 2002. Daughter, Lynn P. Serack (Kenneth), and Son, Steven J. Palmiter (Diane).Donald Roeber
6/1/1920 - 6/23/2007Edward Arne Thompson
Son of Arne and ElisaBorn 15 June 1900, possibly Waterton, SD. Died 1955. His half sisters Clara and Emma were born 1893 & 1895.
Married Norma Hendrickson in Winnebago County, Illinois.
M928-0403 04/10/1928 THOMPSON, EDWARD 27 HENDRICKSON, NORMA CLARIND 19
Richard "Dick" Lowell Thompson
28 September 1928 - 13 February 2010- Obituary
at Janesville, WI Gazette
Richard L. Thompson, Edgerton (1928 - 2010)
September 28, 1928 - February 13, 2010 Richard L. Thompson, 81, Edgerton, WI, passed away Saturday, Feb. 13, 2010, at his home. He was born on Sept. 28, 1928, son of the late Edward and Norma (Hendrickson) Thompson. Richard married Florence "Flo" Steindl on June 10, 1951, in Central Lutheran Church, Edgerton. Richard served from 1948 to 1952 in the Air Force. He owned the Thompson Real Estate Agency for over 40 years in Edgerton. He enjoyed collecting trains and guns. He belonged to Central Lutheran Church and was an usher at the church. He was a member of the Edgerton Lions Club.
Richard is survived by his daughters, Jane (Rick Parrent) Bell of Edgerton and Eve (Jerry) Kisgen of Ashville, NC; grandchildren, Leslie (Brian Dempsey) Bell and Jerry (Kirstin) Kisgen; and great-grandchildren, Alexis and Luke Kisgen.
In addition to his parents, Richard was preceded in death by his wife, Flo; and a brother, Douglas Thompson.
Funeral services will be held at 11 a.m. Friday, Feb. 19, 2010, at CENTRAL LUTHERAN CHURCH, with Pastor Erica Adams officiating. Burial with full military rites will be in Fassett Cemetery. Visitation time will be from 4 until 7 p.m. Thursday at the WHITCOMB-LYNCH-ALBRECHT FUNERAL HOME, EDGERTON, and from 10 a.m. until time of services Friday at the CHURCH. Memorials may be given to HospiceCare, Inc. or the VA Hospital, Madison, WI.
A special thanks to the wonderful people at HospiceCare, Inc. and the special doctors at the VA Hospital.
- Richard Thompson at Find a Grave
- Preceded in death by wife
Florence Steindl Thompson
Name Thompson, Florence Steindl
Residence Edgerton, WI
Birth Date 05 May 1931
Death Date 31 Aug 2005
Spouse Richard Thompson
Newspaper 02 Sep 2005 2B
Jane Thompson Bell
20 Mar 1957 - 1 Apr 2017 (aged 60)Married to Rick Parrent
Daughter Leslie Bell Dempsey (Brian)
Leslie Bell & Brian Dempsey
February 5, 2011 Gallery 1028The Couple - Brian can still recall what Leslie was wearing the first time he laid eyes on her at a party: “printed shirt, blazer, ponytail,” says the groom. Now that’s what we call making an everlasting impression!
The Details - LOLA Event Productions worked old barn windows into the party’s décor. Callahan Catering incorporated the couple’s favorite dishes (think mac ’n’ cheese and paella) into the night’s nibbles.
The Party - Because Feb. 5 is also Leslie’s birthday, The Party Faithful sang “Happy Birthday” to the bride. All 145 guests parted with spiced sachets handmade by the happy couple. –Elise Hofer
Eve Alise Thompson Kisgen
Married to Jerry KisgenClass of 1977 (Probably)
Possibly located in New Braunfels, TX or Austin, TX or Fletcher, NC or Asheville, NC (2010)
Son Jerry Kisgen
Daughter-in-law Kirstin
Granddaughter Alexis
Grandson Luke
Douglas Thompson
11 November 1936 - 9 February 2005-
This is him
only because it's in Edgerton. 11 November 1936 - 9 February 2005, Jenson Cemetery.
- Information based on SSDI
- Find a Grave
- Also indicates his mother, "Norma Oliver" Sep 1909 - Aug 1993.
Family Tree
- Edward Thompson
15 June 1900 - 1955
- Spouse: Norma Clarinda Hendrickson Oliver
- Son: Richard "Dick" Lowell Thompson
b. Sept. 28, 1928 d. February 13, 2010
- Spouse: Florence Steindl Thompson
- Daughter:
Jane Thompson
b. 20 Mar 1957
- Spouse: Greg Tubss
- Spouse: Foster Bell
- Daughter:
Leslie Jane Bell
b. 6 Feb 1981
- Spouse: Brian Dempsey m. 5 Feb 2011
- Daughter: Ella
- Daughter:
- Spouse?: Rick Parrent
- Daughter: Eve Alise Thompson
b. 9 Jul 1959
- Spouse: Jerry Kisgen
- Son: Jerry Kisgen
b. 09 Nov 1980
- Spouse: Kirsten Renee ?
- Daughter: Alexis Kisgen
- Son: Luke Kisgen
- Son: Douglas E. Thompson
b. 11 November 1936
d. 9 February 2005
- Spouse: Trudy (divorced 1950s)
Obituaries
David Anthony Bartholomew
David Anthony Bartholomew died on July 14, 2020 at his home in Citrus Heights, California after a long battle with Parkinson's disease.He was born May 31, 1940 in Vallejo, California to Hazel Bartholomew and Vernon Bartholomew. David was raised in San Francisco by his single mother. He served four years in the Air Force as an aircraft mechanic, stationed in Okinawa and New York state.
David was licensed in both mechanical and civil engineering, having received a B.S. in mechanical engineering from Heald Engineering College in San Francisco and a B.S. in civil engineering from the University of Washington in Seattle. David worked for Boeing in the Seattle area, then for the State of California as an engineer for the Department of Corrections and for the Office of Statewide Health Planning and Development. After that he worked for Kitchell, and finally for Bureau Veritas, from which he retired at age 75. He loved engineering.
David married his wife Sue in Seattle in 1975. David was a wonderful husband, kind, wise, and witty, and a man of integrity. He was a faithful man of God.
David is survived by his wife Sylvia Sue, his brother Stephen Bartholomew of Lakeport, CA, and his nephew Brendan Bartholomew of Pacifica, CA.
Condolences may be left on the website or mailed to Reichert’s Funeral Services 7320 Auburn Blvd. Citrus Heights, CA 95610, once received they will be forwarded to the family.
Jane L Thompson Parrent
20 Mar 1957 - 1 Apr 2017 (aged 60)Jane L. (nee Thompson) Parrent, 60, of Edgerton, WI, passed away at her home on April 1, 2017 surrounded by her loving family. Jane was born in Edgerton on March 20, 1957 to the late Richard and Florence (Steindl) Thompson. She graduated from Edgerton High School in the Class of 1975 and has continued many dear friendships with those classmates. Jane was also surrounded by loving friends from her 20 years as an employee of Mercy Hospital . Jane was a loving mother who adored her family, especially her role as "Nana" to her grandchildren. On September 26, 2015, Jane married her husband under her favorite tree in their back yard. The last few years of Jane's life were spent fighting a brave and courageous battle against cancer. She appreciated each day and every moment she had with all those that she loved, and who loved her. Jane is survived by her husband; daughter; grandchildren; sister; nephew; and many friends. She was preceded in death by her parents, Richard and Floss Thompson. Funeral services will be held at 11 a.m. on Friday, April 7, 2017 at Central Lutheran Church, Edgerton with Rev. Sara Gillespie officiating. Burial will follow at Fasssett Cemetery. Visitation will be held on Thursday, April 6, 2017 from 5 PM to 8 PM at the Albrecht Funeral Homes & Cremation Services, Edgerton and from 10 a.m. until the start of the services on Friday at the church. In lieu of flowers, a memorial will be established in Jane’s name at a later date.